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  My granny died.

  by LouBelle in

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  2. friends

  last week friday i was delayed in going to work, for which i am glad.

  it was an opportunity for me to help my gran one last time.

  she thanked me, told me she loved me and that i would be very blessed.

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  Black Sheep

  It's so nice you were there for her.

  My condolences go to you and your family.

  Chris
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  Crap....help please

  by DS211 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so tonight my wife looked iver the wt for tomorrow.

  she said what she got out of it was that apostates are negative murmurers who can cause you to question jehovah and his earthly org and that it reminded her of the negativity caused when i told her i read ray franz's book.

  she said it caused me to question service, family worship night, and praying together.

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  Black Sheep

  A bit of shut up is very good.

  You can't talk sense with a frightened cult member, so don't frighten her.
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  Can You Be Disfellowshipped For Merely Repeating What Apostates Are Saying? Even If You Deny Belief In What Is Said?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  say a person wants to start making fellow jws think and open up their eyes so they decide to just repeat what they have read on some apostate site but deny any agreement with what read.

  how many times do you think he could do it before being called into a committee, and eventually be disfellowshipped?.

  how long could someone last playing that cat and mouse game walking on the edge repeating apostate criticism but denying agreement?.

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  Black Sheep

  If you want them to think you have to ask them questions they think they can answer, but can't, not tell them stuff they have been warned not to listen to.

  It's better if they discover the WT hasn't really answered the question and find jwfacts & co. while using Google to find the missing answer. Better for you, better for them.

  Thinking = good

  Blocking = bad
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  A House Divided Against Itself Falls-Luke 11:17

  by Stand for Pure Worship in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  that text reminds me of one of a handful of problems peculiar to the ex-jw community.

  second only to the wild beast's internal divisions, is the divided makeup of the ex-jw populace.

  you know the one thing that indicates jehovah's blessing upon the worldwide association of kingdom proclaimers, is not only the continued success of the preaching work, but along with it the unity and love amongst the brothers and sisters.

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  Black Sheep

  "Some of you I believe Armageddon didn't come on your stopwatch and so you gave up. It was all about petting a Panda bear for you or having a wildebeest farm."

  I know where you got that idea from. It's been parroted by the Watchtower every time members start leaving after their pretend god has demonstrated his non existance by not showing up to do what the Watchtower leaders pretended he promised he would do.

  NWT 1 Kings 18:27 And it came about at noon that E·li′jah began to mock them and say: “Call at the top of YOUR voice, for he is a god; for he must be concerned with a matter, and he has excrement and has to go to the privy.
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  Jehovah in the New Testament (New NWT bible )

  by jhine in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have just seen in the flesh , or paper , the new nwt .

  my witness friends were delighted with it showing me all the new features like the glossary of terms and explanations of the hows and whys .

  i did ask about actual content , acting daft not letting on that i knew anything about it .

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  Black Sheep

  It isn't up to us to provide evidence of the non existance of something that doesn't exist. It is up to the person making the claim to provide evidence that it does exist.

  What we can do is encourage them into the mental effort and research to prove the non existance to themselves.
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  The Real Aftermath of the AGM...Part 2

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  for the ones based in britain only the "few" were invited to attend the agm .they received their new grey bible and the rumor was that the new bible will not be available for the rest of the congragations until january .it was confirmed tonight .a letter was read as local announcement that the new bibles will not be available until the end of january for the rest of the congragation .all the in crowd were sat there with their new flashy bible looking smug.also the bible reading was read from the new bible to make it all the more obvious ..... the real aftermath of agm....

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  Black Sheep

  I guess they wouldn't be too happy that I have one already then?
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  What color is your bible?

  by Faithful Witness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what a great way to divide the sheep and goats, both within and outside the great flock!

  jehovah has given us new light.

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  Black Sheep

  Grey
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  Are MOST JW's lacking Moral Fibre ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i find that whether born in or converts, most jw's give their own conscience over to the gb (and writing dept) to dictate how they will react to any moral question.. they simply lack a conscience of their own.. this is not their fault, we should not look down on them for this, their conscience, their natural feeling of what is right and wrong has been:.

  stolen from them !.

  we all know how the cult does this to them, it did it to us, i really am almost in tears when i think that had either of my darling children needed a blood transfusion i would have resisted, believing what i have been taught all my life, that their eternal life was more important than their life now.. how can we persuade jw's to take back their conscience ?.

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  Black Sheep

  I don't think it is about getting them to hear what we are saying. It is about getting them to think about stuff that they already know about, but are suppressing.

  They want Jehovah gOdd to hurry up and bring Paradise, but they don't really like the idea of innocent kids of non-JWs being indiscriminately killed, so they try tricks to minimise these deaths to themselves, or to blank out the thoughts. Our job is to pick the scabs off their faulty repair jobs and get them thinking about the WT crap they are being fed.
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  Apologies for outage

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  looks like the forum went down (right after i went to bed, doh!)..

  i really should get some monitoring setup but it's been pretty rock solid for ages so i've never bothered.. must be something todo with all the tinkering i've been doing and the background job i started running yesterday.. anyway, sorry for anyone who's been trying to access the site..

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  Black Sheep

  ...and I was thinking it had something to do with my 1000 word essay on how to engineer the downfall of the bOrg.
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  Gran is dying.

  by LouBelle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my dear granny hasn't been feeling well for some time and has had a problem keeping anything down.

  she had lost a lot of weight and gone for many tests.

  those tests came back and on friday we were told she has cancer of the pancreas.

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  Black Sheep

  Sorry to hear this LouBelle. My thoughts will be with you.

  ((((LouBelle))))

  Chris